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WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby SlightlyJames » Jan 04, '16, 10:09 pm

ROMAN IS DEFENDING IT IN THE RUMBLE OH MY SHIT
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby chuway » Jan 04, '16, 10:25 pm

Wait so he has to win the rumble to retain?

Creative idea I guess. Reigns is about to go Super Cena.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby CMPUNKFAN » Jan 05, '16, 2:03 am

Great so now the Royal Rumble match is all about Roman again. YAWN
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby DBSoT » Jan 05, '16, 7:53 am

And this is why I took a break from the Main Roster shows. They couldn't be bothered to pick a person worthy of facing Roman at Mania, so they decided to just have Roman win the Rumble 2 years in a row. It also basically destroys the purpose of the rumble, which is to create some unpredictability. Instead of the rumble being about the match and the full roster, its about one guy and that is how it will be presented.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby Str8Shooter » Jan 05, '16, 8:19 am

I'm really hoping they don't have Reigns go a long way to win it again, even with his improved standing with the fans that would be a mistake and could bring back all the boos, especially with what should be a smark heavy crowd.

I think the more likely scenario is that Triple H comes in at number 30 and then wins the match and the title. Thus setting up him vs Reigns for the belt at Mania so Reigns can finally get the "WrestleMania moment" that they're so desperate for him to have. I'm not sure that that's better, but it is what it is.

Brock has a shot to win as well if he ends up in it. But that doesn't look as likely now.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby Everlong » Jan 05, '16, 8:56 am

I actually think this would be a really cool idea in another scenario, but right now it just reeks of them not wanting to have to book an actual feud for Roman because they're fresh out of contenders.

BLeh.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby Str8Shooter » Jan 05, '16, 9:21 am

Everlong wrote:I actually think this would be a really cool idea in another scenario, but right now it just reeks of them not wanting to have to book an actual feud for Roman because they're fresh out of contenders.

BLeh.


Triple H is the contender though. They could easily have had him return this week or next and make him Reigns match for the Rumble. I just think they don't want to do that match before Mania.

Whatever, I suppose having the Rumble for the title gives it a little added interest. I just desperately want a Rumble that isn't a huge mess like the last couple years.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby Everlong » Jan 05, '16, 9:22 am

Str8Shooter wrote: I just desperately want a Rumble that isn't a huge mess like the last couple years.


No kidding. The Rumble is almost impossible to mess up yet they've done it two years running. It's incomprehensible.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby Messiah » Jan 05, '16, 12:03 pm

I actually think this is a fucking awesome idea and will definitely have me tuning in. I've been wanting them to do something like this for a long time now.

IMO it would have been perfect for the Summer of Punk storyline had Punk stayed away long enough or if HHH had turned heel then. But it works great here too.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby The Legend » Jan 05, '16, 2:33 pm

Messiah wrote:I actually think this is a fucking awesome idea and will definitely have me tuning in. I've been wanting them to do something like this for a long time now.

IMO it would have been perfect for the Summer of Punk storyline had Punk stayed away long enough or if HHH had turned heel then. But it works great here too.


I agree. It's been a long time since we've had a Rumble that stood out in some way for being different and I think this could be a huge success if people approach it from an open mind.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby Hanley! » Jan 05, '16, 3:03 pm

I kinda hate this idea.

When people put forward the idea of the title being up for grabs in the Rumble this year, I was actually pretty interested in it. Verging on excited at the prospect. It'd be something different, and it's the perfect time for it given how there seem to be no concrete plans or obvious matches for Wrestlemania this year.

But I just assumed that the title would be held up first. That it would be 30 people all fighting for the shot at the championship. That's an exciting prospect. Reigns still holding the belt and DEFENDING it in the Royal Rumble match changes the narrative completely. Whether or not Reigns wins the match, the Royal Rumble just went from being the fun match where you get to see all your favourites, to being the Roman Reigns show. This match will be 100% about him from start to finish, which isn't something that the Royal Rumble has ever done before and it's not what the match should be about.

I wish they had just held up the belt. Then they could have run with basically the same idea, without overexposing Reigns or making the entire rest of the roster look inferior. This was half of a good idea, but the other half was shit.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby DBSoT » Jan 05, '16, 3:05 pm

This would be a really cool idea if their were multiple options to win the title, but their is really only three possible winners and two of them would devalue the whole point of the rumble. HHH and Brock winning the rumble minimizes the role of the rest of the roster and Roman winning makes him look more SuperCena like then ever. If they had actually made a legit effort to build up multiple stars this past year and enough actual contenders for the title, then this would be fine. However, they are going to have a rumble that is built and promoted around 1 guy and say "fuck it all" to the rest of the roster. It is just another missed chance to built multiple stars. Roman is eventually going to have to feud with wrestlers of this generation and when he does, the crowd won't give a fuck because none of them will be credible.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby PorkChop » Jan 05, '16, 3:08 pm

This is an awful idea.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby The Legend » Jan 05, '16, 3:11 pm

When people say the Rumble's never been about and shouldn't be about one man, does anyone remember the 1999 Royal Rumble? It's one of my favorite Rumbles of all time and it was entirely about one man, well two men, but close enough and this one will be about two men: Reigns and HHH.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby Hanley! » Jan 05, '16, 3:19 pm

They probably also think this is a great way to get Roman's "One Versus All" catchphrase over.

Which reminds me ... why is that his catchphrase? When he debuted he was aligned with the Shield, and his two more experienced partners helped him to the top of the company. Since the Shield broke up he's been aligned with Ambrose. He's been aligned with his cousins the Usos. The Rock even helped him out at the Royal Rumble. Roman Reigns has so many buddies, you guys.

I think he might be the only person on the entire roster who has been aligned with somebody or another for 100% of his career. That makes "One Versus All" a terrible catchphrase.

WWE insist on feeding us stories that are clearly bullshit. You don't need to be a "smark" to realise this stuff makes no sense, you just need eyes. It's like all those years they spent calling Cena such a great underdog. "Hey there, look at this giant muscular man who wins all his matches, he sure is the underdog here tonight." No he's not, fuck off. If you want to get your wrestlers over, stop trying to sell them as something they're not.

Sorry, tangent/rant over. :lol
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby DBSoT » Jan 05, '16, 3:25 pm

The Legend wrote:When people say the Rumble's never been about and shouldn't be about one man, does anyone remember the 1999 Royal Rumble? It's one of my favorite Rumbles of all time and it was entirely about one man, well two men, but close enough and this one will be about two men: Reigns and HHH.
And my point was that in 2015 having a Rumble about the current champion and 50+ year old HHH is a joke. In 1999 Austin was fighting to get a chance to face the champion at Mania. He wasn't defending his title. Their is a huge difference.

Hanley, kind of made my other point for me. I can't stand this Reigns vs Authority stuff. In no world would Reigns be disliked by people in power. It is insulting to my intelligence.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby Str8Shooter » Jan 05, '16, 3:48 pm

Hanley! wrote:They probably also think this is a great way to get Roman's "One Versus All" catchphrase over.


Is that really his catchphrase? I watch Raw and I don't remember them or him saying that. "Believe That" sure, but not "One Versus All". If they're trying to get it over they're doing a shitty job.

I'm not sure I agree with you saying he's had a ton of help, yes he has been allied with those you mentioned. But it's actually been ridiculous how often lately he is forced to fight off a bunch of guys, be it the League of Nations, or Vince, without any of his "buddies" coming to his rescue.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby Hanley! » Jan 05, '16, 3:51 pm

The Legend wrote:When people say the Rumble's never been about and shouldn't be about one man, does anyone remember the 1999 Royal Rumble? It's one of my favorite Rumbles of all time and it was entirely about one man, well two men, but close enough and this one will be about two men: Reigns and HHH.


That's not nearly the same thing though.

We've had plenty of Royal Rumbles where there were only realistically a couple of potential winners. That's not the point I'm making. The story of every Royal Rumble match is that anyone could win the grandest prize in the WWE. Realistically fans know that most of them won't, but they're encouraged to buy into the concept at least for the duration of the match itself. It makes things more exciting and vibrant. The match format encourages fans to cheer for their favourite guys, whoever they may be.

But the story of THIS Royal Rumble match is whether or not Roman Reigns can defend his title. Other people will have bit parts in that story, but by walking in as champion, this match becomes about Reigns. And what's worse is that before anyone buys the Rumble or subscribes to the Network to see it, they already know this. This is the Roman Reigns show. That takes away so much of the excitement and possibility for surprise. I'm not even convinced he's going to win, but that doesn't matter - this is his match. Not the fun free-for-all that we look forward to every year; the narrative is designed to focus on Reigns.

I'm not someone who thinks that Reigns isn't deserving of a main event spot, I'm fine with him as champion. But this is too much. It feels like a bit of a slap in the face to anyone who'd rather someone else main event at Wrestlemania. They're taking the one match a year that's for everyone and turning it into a match only for those who really care about Roman Reigns. It just seems a bit deflating.
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby Hanley! » Jan 05, '16, 3:53 pm

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Hanley! wrote:They probably also think this is a great way to get Roman's "One Versus All" catchphrase over.


Is that really his catchphrase? I watch Raw and I don't remember them or him saying that. "Believe That" sure, but not "One Versus All". If they're trying to get it over they're doing a shitty job.

I'm not sure I agree with you saying he's had a ton of help, yes he has been allied with those you mentioned. But it's actually been ridiculous how often lately he is forced to fight off a bunch of guys, be it the League of Nations, or Vince, without any of his "buddies" coming to his rescue.


Maybe not a catchphrase exactly, but he's used it in a bunch of promos, his enemies have used it in promos when referring to him (including Vince on Raw, I believe), and most importantly it's on a bunch of his merch. It's definitely something they've been trying to get over for him.

You make a valid point about how often his friends don't come out to help him, that's been annoying me lately. Maybe they got pissed off that he wasn't giving them any credit. :P
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Re: WWE TITLE MATCH AT ROYAL RUMBLE

Postby Str8Shooter » Jan 05, '16, 3:56 pm

Steve is right about them turning the Rumble into their latest vehicle to try and make Roman Reigns into the superstar babyface they're oh so desperate for him to become. I'm just hoping that the poor guy doesn't get legs cut out from under him again with their blatant attempt at turning this into the Roman Rumble.

He just finally started to get over the way they wanted him too, and yet it feels like they're unknowingly sabotaging their own efforts to help him but giving him too much help.

I still have faith it can be a good Rumble though, the roster of guys in it should be pretty good. I just hope they can stumble into some decent way of booking this to be entertaining.
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