Kevin Owens lacks support from brass

[lyonssv]

http://www.inquisitr.com/2303732/wwe-news-huge-backstage-talk-on-wwe-superstar-kevin-owens-vince-mcmahon-not-a-fan/

I'm not sure how accurate these dirt sheets are, but this definitely makes sense, as it seems KO has lost a ton of momentum since debuting. And it would also make sense as to why he was not able to take the U.S. title off of John Cena when it made all the sense in the world.

It really is a damn shame because I think KO has the chance to be a top heel for a long time. But it seems a lot of WWE brass are not fans mostly because of his look.

[VaderBomb]

Mother

Fucker.

[Circled Square]

How the fuck is a fat guy with a farmers tan not marketable in America? I'm serious with that question. How many fans can relate to le epic steriod man Ryback or Cena? Sometimes I actually think Vince is retarded.

[PorkChop]

How the fuck is a fat guy with a farmers tan not marketable in America? I'm serious with that question. How many fans can relate to le epic steriod man Ryback or Cena? Sometimes I actually think Vince is retarded.

You're getting the wrong end of the stick.

Fans aren't supposed to relate to guys like Ryback and Cena. They're meant to be larger than life, comic-book looking superheroes. WWE (or rather, Vince) has always wanted their top guys to look like this. Why do you think Khali won a world title? It sure as hell wasn't based on his charisma and wrestling ability.

Owens doesn't fit that image. As you said, he's just a fat guy with a farmer's tan. I'm not surprised at this story one bit.

[lyonssv]

How the fuck is a fat guy with a farmers tan not marketable in America? I'm serious with that question. How many fans can relate to le epic steriod man Ryback or Cena? Sometimes I actually think Vince is retarded.

You're getting the wrong end of the stick.

Fans aren't supposed to relate to guys like Ryback and Cena. They're meant to be larger than life, comic-book looking superheroes. WWE (or rather, Vince) has always wanted their top guys to look like this. Why do you think Khali won a world title? It sure as hell wasn't based on his charisma and wrestling ability.

Owens doesn't fit that image. As you said, he's just a fat guy with a farmer's tan. I'm not surprised at this story one bit.

I think that's why WWE has fallen behind the times and struggle to connect with the audience. Fans DON'T WANT larger than life characters anymore. That's why they boo the hell out of Cena. That's why they could not get behind the idea of "Cena-esque" Roman Reigns.

We are in more of a reality era. Guys like Kevin Owens fits that bill. That's why the fans were so crazy about Daniel Bryan. He was a normal guy. Someone they could relate to. The sooner the WWE realizes this, the better off they'll be. Unfortunately, I don't know if they ever will.

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How the fuck is a fat guy with a farmers tan not marketable in America? I'm serious with that question. How many fans can relate to le epic steriod man Ryback or Cena? Sometimes I actually think Vince is retarded.

You're getting the wrong end of the stick.

Fans aren't supposed to relate to guys like Ryback and Cena. They're meant to be larger than life, comic-book looking superheroes. WWE (or rather, Vince) has always wanted their top guys to look like this. Why do you think Khali won a world title? It sure as hell wasn't based on his charisma and wrestling ability.

Owens doesn't fit that image. As you said, he's just a fat guy with a farmer's tan. I'm not surprised at this story one bit.

Yeah, you're right. Wish you weren't though.

[Hanley!]

Vince likes larger than life comic book characters. It doesn't matter what anyone else likes. Maybe he has realised that this isn't what the fans respond to anymore. I mean, he'd have to be an idiot to not see it. But he doesn't care. He wants what he wants and in his opinion, we should want it too. This approach isn't going to change until he's gone.

Personally, I like Owens' look. To me he almost looks like a throwback to certain old wrestlers from the 80s and early 90s. Guys like Arn Anderson or Vader. Those guys just came across like tough fuckers. Guys like Cena and Ryback look like they spend all their time in the gym. Meanwhile, guys like Arn looked like they spent all their time in seedy bars, drinking beer and starting fights. And winning fights.

To me those guys came off as more intimidating. Probably because they seemed more realistic.

[Westcoastvibes]

His booking has been shit also, he shouldn't be referred to as the guy that runs away or leaves matches. If anything let him get a DQ by not breaking a 5 count or counted out cause he was to busy beating a guys ass to realize the ref reached a 10 count, hell have him knock out the ref after just for heat.

The guy is a nature heel but you cant be a bad ass when your known as a coward.

[lyonssv]

His booking has been shit also, he shouldn't be referred to as the guy that runs away or leaves matches. If anything let him get a DQ by not breaking a 5 count or counted out cause he was to busy beating a guys ass to realize the ref reached a 10 count, hell have him knock out the ref after just for heat.

The guy is a nature heel but you cant be a bad ass when your known as a coward.

They have done the same thing with Rollins. Made him a complete joke as a champion. I hate when they book heels that way, but they've always done it that way it seems.

[Locke]

At the end of the day, WWE is nothing but Vince playing with living action figures and making the good guys good and the bad guys pussies.

It's a sick thing to day and I'm aware of it, but I'd trade Roddy's Death for Vince's in a heart beat without considering a thing.

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The idea of them halting Owens' push because of his physical appearance doesn't make sense to me. Pretty sure he had that beer belly when WWE's brass decided to put him in a high-profile program with Cena, yet suddenly he doesn't have the right look? His look is a big part of his appeal if you ask me, as he stands out because of it. Everyone on the roster looks the fucking same, and I think his is a look that separates him from the rest of the pack.

It's not like they DESPERATELY need another main event level heel or anything...

[Hanley!]

The idea of them halting Owens' push because of his physical appearance doesn't make sense to me. Pretty sure he had that beer belly when WWE's brass decided to put him in a high-profile program with Cena, yet suddenly he doesn't have the right look? His look is a big part of his appeal if you ask me, as he stands out because of it. Everyone on the roster looks the fucking same, and I think his is a look that separates him from the rest of the pack.

It's not like they DESPERATELY need another main event level heel or anything...

I did hear some people online saying that Owens had gained more weight since debuting. Which is the kind of thing that you could imagine Vince not responding well too, given his preferences. Personally I didn't notice though. Maybe he did gain some weight, but not enough to make any big difference to his appearance.

I definitely agree that it helps that he looks different to everyone else. The company should be looking for guys of all shapes and sizes. That's what helps people to stand out. Anything that makes someone unique should be celebrated nowadays, where it seems like every wrestler talks the same way, dresses in the same colours, wrestles the same style. Three hours would pass a lot faster with a little variety.

[JPG619]

At least they are not pushing him to the top like other starts I am glad they are working him slowly. I really enjoyed most of his matches on NXT and his matches with Cena kept me on the edge of my seat for most of the match.

I think they need to just give him time but not to much time to let him slide like other wrestlers that they have done in the past. I think they the fans are really into his matches I think that would be the best time to push him to the top well at least an IC or US title run before giving him a shot at the WWE title.

[Battleaxe]

At least they are not pushing him to the top like other starts I am glad they are working him slowly. I really enjoyed most of his matches on NXT and his matches with Cena kept me on the edge of my seat for most of the match.

I think they need to just give him time but not to much time to let him slide like other wrestlers that they have done in the past. I think they the fans are really into his matches I think that would be the best time to push him to the top well at least an IC or US title run before giving him a shot at the WWE title.

Pushing him slowly is one thing, but putting him into a high profile program that's clearly designed to show fans "this guy is a big deal", only to pull the rug out from under him does a disservice to his future. If a guy is booked the right way, meteoric rises to the top do work. This start-stop-start-stop way of booking guys that the company clearly sees potential in mystifies me.

[Str8Shooter]

It's a sick thing to day and I'm aware of it, but I'd trade Roddy's Death for Vince's in a heart beat without considering a thing.

I'm not concerned about Owens, even if this is true to be honest. Now more than ever it's clear Vince is out of touch with today's audience. The crowd is pushing back against his stupidity more than ever. Owens is over, and he clearly has performed well both in the ring and on the mic. I can't see him getting any sort of "burial", especially with Triple H presumably still in his corner backstage.

A feud with Cesaro isn't exactly terrible either. Cesaro is also getting the mini push lately and both guys are over and should have a great match together. It isn't beating Cena, but he's not wrestling on Superstars either.

[Hanley!]

At least they are not pushing him to the top like other starts I am glad they are working him slowly. I really enjoyed most of his matches on NXT and his matches with Cena kept me on the edge of my seat for most of the match.

The big problem is that he started off in a program against Cena. So he was treated like a top guy upon debuting and from that position there was nowhere to go but down. It's a classic example of WWE's short term booking. It started with a great moment and ended with utter disappointment. The same as all of these angles. They always end a lot worse than they start.

Part of the problem these days is that they almost never run with mid card feuds, and the entirety of the mid card are basically portrayed to be nobodies. So someone like Owens can't make an impact by debuting in a feud against Ryback or Cody Rhodes. People wouldn't give a fuck, because they've been conditioned not to give a fuck. So if WWE want to create a big moment for someone like Owens, they have to start him off against somebody like John Cena.

Unfortunately, that creates an expectation that WWE aren't willing to deliver upon. They start Owens against a top name and that makes fans think Owens is going to be a big deal. But then he loses, and he just looks like any other chump, and it becomes one more thing WWE have fucked up.

It's a hole that they've spent a long time digging for themselves, and it may take them even longer to dig their way out. They have to try and make the mid card mean something again. Then new wrestlers will be able to build some momentum and slowly work their way to the top based on their popularity and talent, the way it should be done.

For the time being though, I imagine we'll keep getting the quick fixes instead.

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Oh shit!

Like a light skinned slaveboy, BATTLEAXE IN THE MOTHERFUCKIN' HOUSE!