Official NBA off-season thread/Free Agency

[The Legend]

^^^ Doesn't mean I can't not like the person and not root for his personal success even while rooting for the team's success. If he comes back Kyrie will still be my favorite player on the team and there's nothing your sarcastic pictures and BS can say to change anything about that.

[DanielsonTHAGOAT]

^^^ Doesn't mean I can't not like the person and not root for his personal success even while rooting for the team's success. If he comes back Kyrie will still be my favorite player on the team and there's nothing your sarcastic pictures and BS can say to change anything about that.

LeBron is lightyears ahead of Kyrie.

[Everlong]

^^^ Doesn't mean I can't not like the person and not root for his personal success even while rooting for the team's success. If he comes back Kyrie will still be my favorite player on the team and there's nothing your sarcastic pictures and BS can say to change anything about that.

LeBron is lightyears ahead of Kyrie.

I don't think he's disagreeing with that, he's just saying that his personal feelings about LeBron will not change if he returns to Cleveland. I don't think even Legend would argue against LeBron being the best player in the NBA.

[The Legend]

^^^ Doesn't mean I can't not like the person and not root for his personal success even while rooting for the team's success. If he comes back Kyrie will still be my favorite player on the team and there's nothing your sarcastic pictures and BS can say to change anything about that.

LeBron is lightyears ahead of Kyrie.

Show me where I said that? I just don't care about that.

[SKS]

If LeBron chooses to go back to Cleveland, the city should send him a hand written apology for disrespecting him the past few years.

[Everlong]

If LeBron chooses to go back to Cleveland, the city should send him a hand written apology for disrespecting him the past few years.

Dan Gilbert should be licking LeBron's boots for the fact that he'd even consider returning to cleveland. That letter that he wrote as an absolute embarrassment.

[SKS]

If LeBron chooses to go back to Cleveland, the city should send him a hand written apology for disrespecting him the past few years.

Dan Gilbert should be licking LeBron's boots for the fact that he'd even consider returning to cleveland. That letter that he wrote as an absolute embarrassment.

Gilbert is the reason why I don't want LeBron to go back, because he doesn't deserve to win anything. He's a complete asshat of an owner and his proclamations about LeBron were so childish.

[DanielsonTHAGOAT]

If LeBron chooses to go back to Cleveland, the city should send him a hand written apology for disrespecting him the past few years.

Dan Gilbert should be licking LeBron's boots for the fact that he'd even consider returning to cleveland. That letter that he wrote as an absolute embarrassment.

Gilbert is the reason why I don't want LeBron to go back, because he doesn't deserve to win anything. He's a complete asshat of an owner and his proclamations about LeBron were so childish.

At least he isn't Donald Sterling..

[The Legend]

If LeBron chooses to go back to Cleveland, the city should send him a hand written apology for disrespecting him the past few years.

Bull Shit. He should deliver an apology for his selfish, immature crap and walking away from a challenge for the path of least resistance. He had a chance to do something most only dream about and win a championship for his hometown team and he threw it away. Screw that.

[Everlong]

He had a chance to do something most only dream about and win a championship for his hometown team and he threw it away.

He can still do it though!

Cleveland had what, 8 years to put a decent supporting cast around him? And they never did. LeBron dragged that team kicking and screaming to a finals once, and even after that they refused to give him the caliber of players needed to get to a championship.

Now that they've actually had a few number one picks and aren't going to take the King for granted, maybe they'll actually start caring about putting together a winning roster.

[Philip Rivers]

^^^ Doesn't mean I can't not like the person and not root for his personal success even while rooting for the team's success. If he comes back Kyrie will still be my favorite player on the team and there's nothing your sarcastic pictures and BS can say to change anything about that.

Doesn't matter, that's not what you said. What you said was he'd be nothing more than a mercenary coming back to help Wiggins and Kyrie, when in reality AGAIN, Cleveland isn't winning a damn thing without him.

Keep your personal opinion all you want, let Kyrie be YOUR favorite, but just know that no matter what....LBJ will be THE MAN in Cleveland if he returns, and if yall win, HE WILL BE THE REASON.

Kyrie and Wiggins are playing second and third fiddle to the King if he's a Cav again. Perioddddddd.

[The Legend]

He had a chance to do something most only dream about and win a championship for his hometown team and he threw it away.

He can still do it though!

Cleveland had what, 8 years to put a decent supporting cast around him? And they never did. LeBron dragged that team kicking and screaming to a finals once, and even after that they refused to give him the caliber of players needed to get to a championship.

Now that they've actually had a few number one picks and aren't going to take the King for granted, maybe they'll actually start caring about putting together a winning roster.

They tried their damnedest to put together a roster that could win. It's not Dan Gilbert's fault that the hip hop culture of the NBA stars of today care more about club scenes and nightlife than the basketball court. It's not Cleveland's fault that even with LeBron guys like Gilbert Arenas, Joe Johnson, Carlos Boozer and others turned Cleveland down in free agency for markets with better night spots and high profile partying lifestyles.

It's not Dan Gilbert's fault that the Big 3 themselves turned down the team and city with the #1 record in the NBA when they got together in 2010 choosing to party on South Beach with an inferior supporting cast that cost them the first championship instead of getting together in Cleveland where they could have won with a starting lineup that would have included better players.

[The Legend]

^^^ Doesn't mean I can't not like the person and not root for his personal success even while rooting for the team's success. If he comes back Kyrie will still be my favorite player on the team and there's nothing your sarcastic pictures and BS can say to change anything about that.

Doesn't matter, that's not what you said. What you said was he'd be nothing more than a mercenary coming back to help Wiggins and Kyrie, when in reality AGAIN, Cleveland isn't winning a damn thing without him.

Keep your personal opinion all you want, let Kyrie be YOUR favorite, but just know that no matter what....LBJ will be THE MAN in Cleveland if he returns, and if yall win, HE WILL BE THE REASON.

Kyrie and Wiggins are playing second and third fiddle to the King if he's a Cav again. Perioddddddd.

Alright I'm fucking sick and tired of you being a prick and flipping me off in every fucking post you have to say to me. So shut the fuck up and back the hell off.

[DanielsonTHAGOAT]

He had a chance to do something most only dream about and win a championship for his hometown team and he threw it away.

He can still do it though!

Cleveland had what, 8 years to put a decent supporting cast around him? And they never did. LeBron dragged that team kicking and screaming to a finals once, and even after that they refused to give him the caliber of players needed to get to a championship.

Now that they've actually had a few number one picks and aren't going to take the King for granted, maybe they'll actually start caring about putting together a winning roster.

They tried their damnedest to put together a roster that could win. It's not Dan Gilbert's fault that the hip hop culture of the NBA stars of today care more about club scenes and nightlife than the basketball court. It's not Cleveland's fault that even with LeBron guys like Gilbert Arenas, Joe Johnson, Carlos Boozer and others turned Cleveland down in free agency for markets with better night spots and high profile partying lifestyles.

It's not Dan Gilbert's fault that the Big 3 themselves turned down the team and city with the #1 record in the NBA when they got together in 2010 choosing to party on South Beach with an inferior supporting cast that cost them the first championship instead of getting together in Cleveland where they could have won with a starting lineup that would have included better players.

To insinuate that LeBron only moved because of the night life is extremely close minded. He moved because he became apart of a winning franchise that is willing to construct a championship roster for their star players. Also, I don't see how this is apart of "hip hop" culture either, lol.

The only reason the Cavs were #1 was because of LeBron's contributions, period. There's no way Cleveland would've won a championship with the Big 3 due to the poor coaching and terrible front office. Erik Spolstera is extremely underrated as a coach and the plays they ran in Miami was much more sophisticated and successful as opposed to Cleveland's offense. I mean Cleveland couldn't run floppies, low motion offense, high post offense because their play books were one dimensional and simple.

It's not Dan Gilbert's fault that the Big 3 themselves turned down the team and city with the #1 record in the NBA when they got together in 2010 choosing to party on South Beach with an inferior supporting cast that cost them the first championship instead of getting together in Cleveland where they could have won with a starting lineup that would have included better players.

There's no way Cleveland would win a championship title in 2010, that's just wrong. And LOL at partying on South Beach, you do realize that LeBron was clearly the best player in 2010 that year and he got robbed from his MVP award by Derrick Rose.

If the Cavs somehow made it to the Finals in 2010, they would've easily gotten swept by the Mavs. With that one dimensional offensive play books and sets, all the Mavs would need to do is play interior zone to sweep the Cavs with ease.

[SKS]

Also, Bosh was offered a 4 year max contract worth 96M from the Rockets. 24M a year, no state tax, take it Chris!!!!!!! It seems like he's waiting for LeBron to decide, what a nice guy.

[The Legend]

For those saying the Cavs did nothing to help LeBron and didn't work as hard as Miami to surround him with talent and Dan Gilbert is a worse owner than Mickey Arison because of it I found this article. Keep in mind when reading it really all an owner can be asked to do is pay the bills for his franchise.

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2014/07/heres_what_cleveland_cavaliers.html

[SKS]

For those saying the Cavs did nothing to help LeBron and didn't work as hard as Miami to surround him with talent and Dan Gilbert is a worse owner than Mickey Arison because of it I found this article. Keep in mind when reading it really all an owner can be asked to do is pay the bills for his franchise.

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2014/07/heres_what_cleveland_cavaliers.html

Three way trade as the Nets receive Jarrett Jack & Sergey Karasev, Cavs get a Second Rounder and free up cap space and the Celtics get Marcus Thornton, Tyler Zeller, & Cavs' First Round Pick.

Cavs are also pursuing Ray Allen & Mike Miller, doing everything they can to appease LeBron.

Also another stupid move by the Nets management, Jack is washed up and not worth 12M over 2 years. So much for being "wise" with money, Billy.

[Ali]

I fully admit to being a Mavs homer, but I LOVE this move.

By doing this now, the clock begins ticking on Houston. Chris Bosh won't make a move until LeBron does, so the longer LeBron drags it out, the longer Bosh will wait. Bosh has a Max offer from Houston, but Houston will need to renounce Parsons' Qualifying Offer and trade everyone else to have the cap room to Max Bosh. If they renounce Parsons, he becomes an UNrestricted Free Agent, and thus, a Maverick. And if Houston matches the offer sheet first, they can't get Bosh because it would eat up their cap room, sending them into the luxury tax.

Also, this deal reportedly includes a huge Trade Kicker and a third year Player Option, so there are reasons for Houston not to match.

Chandler Parsons is 25, he's a great shooter, good defender, and he has plenty of upside. I love this deal if Houston does not match. If they do, well, f*ck.

[DanielsonTHAGOAT]

[Ali]

And if you think Dirk will sign it, well, you're just wrong. Dirk has already AGREED to terms with the Mavs, around 3yrs/$30mil, and Dirk has a sense of loyalty. He's staying.