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Postby Everlong » Feb 29, '16, 12:11 am

About damn time! That reception he got was amazing.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Hanley! » Feb 29, '16, 3:51 am

Now maybe people can shut the fuck up about it. I've never understood why people act like he's the only good actor in history to have never won an Oscar. There are hundreds of great actors to have never won that award. Why single him out specifically?

I do think he's deserving of having an Oscar to his name, so it's nice to see him pick one up. But I could have said the same about a lot of other guys.

Best actor was kinda a weak field this year though, so it did feel like his time.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Str8Shooter » Feb 29, '16, 8:45 am

Hanley! wrote:There are hundreds of great actors to have never won that award. Why single him out specifically?


Because he's Leo fucking Dicaprio!! :tim
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Everlong » Feb 29, '16, 9:15 am

Hanley! wrote:Why single him out specifically?


Because he's the greatest actor of his generation and is immensely popular? There have been plenty of Oscar snubs, but none who have stood head and shoulders above their peers in talent and popularity like Leo.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby DBSoT » Feb 29, '16, 10:16 am

I am happy that the best actor in Hollywood finally won, but that leads to a different issue. How the hell did Tom Hardy not win best supporting actor?!!! Personally, I thought his performance in The Revenant was even better then Leo's. Not to take anything away from DiCaprio because he was fantastic as well.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Everlong » Feb 29, '16, 10:21 am

DBSoT wrote:I am happy that the best actor in Hollywood finally won, but that leads to a different issue. How the hell did Tom Hardy not win best supporting actor?!!! Personally, I thought his performance in The Revenant was even better then Leo's. Not to take anything away from DiCaprio because he was fantastic as well.


I'm fine with Rylance winning, I thought he was incredible. But while Hardy was really good, in no world was his performance better than Leo's. It was a far simpler, more straightforward role and it wasn't tasked with carrying the movie.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby DBSoT » Feb 29, '16, 10:59 am

Everlong wrote:
DBSoT wrote:I am happy that the best actor in Hollywood finally won, but that leads to a different issue. How the hell did Tom Hardy not win best supporting actor?!!! Personally, I thought his performance in The Revenant was even better then Leo's. Not to take anything away from DiCaprio because he was fantastic as well.


I'm fine with Rylance winning, I thought he was incredible. But while Hardy was really good, in no world was his performance better than Leo's. It was a far simpler, more straightforward role and it wasn't tasked with carrying the movie.
Hardy didn't carry the whole movie, but he definitely had to carry a portion of it. [hide]The entire time Leo was confined to the make shift stretcher[hide] Hardy carried the scenes. Leo did a good job of selling with his facial expressions, but Hardy was the one driving those scenes. Not to take away from Rylance, but that is how I saw it.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Hanley! » Feb 29, '16, 11:24 am

Everlong wrote:Because he's the greatest actor of his generation and is immensely popular? There have been plenty of Oscar snubs, but none who have stood head and shoulders above their peers in talent and popularity like Leo.


There are plenty of great, popular actors to have never received an Oscar. The idea that Leo stands head and shoulders above his peers in talent and popularity in a way that none of these other names have seems completely false to me.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Everlong » Feb 29, '16, 11:32 am

Hanley! wrote:There are plenty of great, popular actors to have never received an Oscar. The idea that Leo stands head and shoulders above his peers in talent and popularity in a way that none of these other names have seems completely false to me.


I'm not disputing your first sentence. But I stand by the second.

Who can you name from Leo's generation, which I'd say is probably early 30s to 50, who's better? Or who has a combination of his talent and popularity?

Even among older actors who have yet to receive an award, I'd argue Leo to be better/more accomplished than any of them.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Hanley! » Feb 29, '16, 11:44 am

Robert Downey Jr, Johnny Depp and Tom Cruise are all of similar levels of popularity to DiCaprio, are from the same generation (roughly) though I'm not sure why that matters. And have all also put on performances that were arguably just as deserving of an Oscar.

Harrison Ford is from a different generation, but is just as well known as DiCaprio even today.

Actors like Ralph Fiennes, Ed Norton, Gary Oldman and Liam Neeson aren't on quite the same level of popularity, but are still very well known and are arguably better actors.

And this is only off the top of my head and only addressing male actors. Again, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve one, but the fact that people always went on about it with DiCaprio almost exclusively was a bit irritating.

It's a bit like the way everyone used to be so annoyed that RVD had never held the WWE championship, when there were a bunch of guys just as good as him or better who also hadn't won it. Singling this one guy out just makes no sense to me.

It'll be interesting to see if the public picks someone new to campaign for, now that Leo has actually won one.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Everlong » Feb 29, '16, 12:30 pm

Hanley! wrote:Robert Downey Jr, Johnny Depp and Tom Cruise are all of similar levels of popularity to DiCaprio, are from the same generation (roughly) though I'm not sure why that matters. And have all also put on performances that were arguably just as deserving of an Oscar.

Harrison Ford is from a different generation, but is just as well known as DiCaprio even today.


It matters because that's literally the entire premise of what I said :P

"Because he's the greatest actor of his generation and is immensely popular? There have been plenty of Oscar snubs, but none who have stood head and shoulders above their peers in talent and popularity like Leo."

What I'm saying is nobody who has been snubbed has stood out so far among his peers in terms of popularity and ability.

RDJ, Depp, Cruise and Ford (as much as I love Harrison Ford) are nowhere near Leo's acting caliber. I'd also take Leo over Norton and Neeson by a fair margin, and even Fiennes and Oldman, though again, Oldman/Fiennes/Ford/Neeson aren't really in Leo's generation.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Everlong » Feb 29, '16, 12:32 pm

Also, we're not talking about individual performances, we're talking about why people are so obsessed over whether Leo gets one. Oldman, Fiennes and others you named have had some incredible Oscar-worthy performances, but none of those who you have named have managed to sustain about 14 straight years of high-profile, high-quality work like Leo has, really since Gangs of New York.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Hanley! » Feb 29, '16, 1:08 pm

Everlong wrote:It matters because that's literally the entire premise of what I said :P


But you said it as a response to my wondering why Leo was the only actor to get this response. I wasn't asking why he was the only actor from his generation to get this response. I just find it irrelevant to to the topic at hand. Why would someone from his generation deserve an Oscar more than a talented actor from any other generation?
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Everlong » Feb 29, '16, 3:13 pm

I think you're still misunderstanding what I'm saying haha.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Viazon » Mar 03, '16, 2:46 pm

I am a huge fan of Leo and I am happy he won. But the main reason for that is because I am glad people can stop moaning about it. A lot of people seem to think that just being a great actor is enough to win you the Oscar. It isn't. You need to have the most outstanding performance that year.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Everlong » Mar 03, '16, 6:29 pm

Viazon wrote:I am a huge fan of Leo and I am happy he won. But the main reason for that is because I am glad people can stop moaning about it. A lot of people seem to think that just being a great actor is enough to win you the Oscar. It isn't. You need to have the most outstanding performance that year.


If that were true he would have won over McConaughey in 2014.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Hanley! » Mar 03, '16, 6:38 pm

No, McConaughey deserved it that year.
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Re: Leo finally has an Oscar!

Postby Viazon » Mar 06, '16, 5:18 am

Everlong wrote:
Viazon wrote:I am a huge fan of Leo and I am happy he won. But the main reason for that is because I am glad people can stop moaning about it. A lot of people seem to think that just being a great actor is enough to win you the Oscar. It isn't. You need to have the most outstanding performance that year.


If that were true he would have won over McConaughey in 2014.


I can't judge that because I have yet to see that movie. Although I thought Leo was amazing that year.
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