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DanielsonTHAGOAT wrote:Honestly I would build my team around Newton and Luck. They've proved that they can carry their team and show amazing athleticism as well as having a great IQ in football.
There's no way I'd pick Russell Wilson as a person to build my team around. He is extremely overrated.
Everlong wrote:DanielsonTHAGOAT wrote:Honestly I would build my team around Newton and Luck. They've proved that they can carry their team and show amazing athleticism as well as having a great IQ in football.
There's no way I'd pick Russell Wilson as a person to build my team around. He is extremely overrated.
I find all three to be pretty overrated, honestly. They're all solid players but the hype makes them all out to be way better than they are currently. A lot of that has to do with future expectations, which I can understand.
This is a way bigger problem with Luck and Wilson than with Newton, who people seem to have largely moved on from with the hype movement. But it's an issue with all three, and probably Luck more than anyone.
Everlong wrote:I don't foresee any of Luck/Newton/Wilson ever getting as good at quarterback as Watt currently is at defense.
If I had to choose one of those three QBs it'd probably be a tough choice for me between Newton and Luck (I think Wilson is a definite third there). But when I have a chance to pick between a guy who is currently the best defensive player in the game vs. quarterbacks who are borderline top ten and may never become one of the top 2/3 at their position, I'll take the best defensive player in the game.
The Legend wrote:A Top 10 quarterback instantly makes you a contender to win the Super Bowl and that's the bottom line.
Everlong wrote:But when I have a chance to pick between a guy who is currently the best defensive player in the game vs. quarterbacks who are borderline top ten and may never become one of the top 2/3 at their position, I'll take the best defensive player in the game.
I don't foresee any of Luck/Newton/Wilson ever getting as good at quarterback as Watt currently is at defense.
Everlong wrote:The Legend wrote:A Top 10 quarterback instantly makes you a contender to win the Super Bowl and that's the bottom line.
Definitely not. Top four or five, maybe. But would you say that Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Tony Romo, Matt Ryan make their teams instant contenders for the Super Bowl?
The Chargers missed the playoffs 3 or the last 4 years.
The Steelers have missed the playoffs 2 years in a row.
The Cowboys have missed the playoffs 4 years in a row.
The Falcons were the NFC's worst team last year and have won a single postseason game in Matt Ryan's 6 years as starter.
Outside of Rodgers/Brady/Brees/Manning, there's not a single QB in the league whose very presence makes his team a contender.
Everlong wrote:The Legend wrote:A Top 10 quarterback instantly makes you a contender to win the Super Bowl and that's the bottom line.
Definitely not. Top four or five, maybe. But would you say that Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Tony Romo, Matt Ryan make their teams instant contenders for the Super Bowl?
The Chargers missed the playoffs 3 or the last 4 years.
The Steelers have missed the playoffs 2 years in a row.
The Cowboys have missed the playoffs 4 years in a row.
The Falcons were the NFC's worst team last year and have won a single postseason game in Matt Ryan's 6 years as starter.
Outside of Rodgers/Brady/Brees/Manning, there's not a single QB in the league whose very presence makes his team a contender.
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