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Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby lyonssv » Jul 17, '15, 1:59 pm

According to several polls. He is now ahead of Scott Walker and Jeb Bush. Pretty unbelievable. Can he actually win the nomination?
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby Hanley! » Jul 17, '15, 2:06 pm

That's pretty sad. Though at the same time, it almost confirms what I've already been thinking: I reckon the next American president is almost certain to be another Democrat. The Republican party is in too much of a shambles.
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby lyonssv » Jul 17, '15, 2:10 pm

Hanley! wrote:That's pretty sad. Though at the same time, it almost confirms what I've already been thinking: I reckon the next American president is almost certain to be another Democrat. The Republican party is in too much of a shambles.


yeah, whoever the Republicans run out there is going to be trampled by Hilary, unfortunately.

The thing about Trump is that he's saying the right these to appease voters and he's not being politically correct which people like. I think people are tired of politicians just being robots and not really every saying anything, so in that regards Trump is a breath of fresh air. If that can carry him to the nomination, I'm not so sure. Eventually Trump's past of donating to Obama and Clinton's campaigns will be brought up as well as other inconsistencies. I think we will learn a lot in the first debate about the legitimacy of his campaign.
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby Everlong » Jul 17, '15, 2:13 pm

Which polls does he lead? I wouldn't trust any polls that list Trump over Bush or Walker.

lyonssv wrote: I think people are tired of politicians just being robots and not really every saying anything, so in that regards Trump is a breath of fresh air.


I do think there's something to that for sure, but I still think Trump doesn't stand even the slightest chance at getting the nomination.
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby Locke » Jul 17, '15, 2:19 pm

Everlong wrote:Which polls does he lead? I wouldn't trust any polls that list Trump over Bush or Walker.

lyonssv wrote: I think people are tired of politicians just being robots and not really every saying anything, so in that regards Trump is a breath of fresh air.


I do think there's something to that for sure, but I still think Trump doesn't stand even the slightest chance at getting the nomination.


Pretty much agree that people are sick of political robots but in no way shape or form will Trump ever secure this nomination.
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby lyonssv » Jul 17, '15, 2:20 pm

Everlong wrote:Which polls does he lead? I wouldn't trust any polls that list Trump over Bush or Walker


Fox News released a national poll today that Trump led and USA Today released one a few days ago that Trump led as well.

Fox had walker and bush second and third respectively. USA Today had those two flip flopped.
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby Circled Square » Jul 17, '15, 3:17 pm

I don't take him very seriously. But what I do like about him is how he speaks what he thinks is the truth. He's also exposed the bias in today's American media, no one has been misquoted or shat on more than Trump.
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby EmperorWu » Jul 17, '15, 5:29 pm

^ Bullshit, all the Repubs on FB are saying he was misquoted. Not once did I see a single article on FB do that, and I watched his hour long speech for comparison.

I don't know what's more disgusting and depressing. That so many people agree with him, or that they're too dumb to realize he's a troll, that's just using the election and them. I very much doubt Trump had any intention of legitimately running for President. He just does this to make money. Except this time he's leading the fucking polls so he might decide to go at it for real after all.

Also about him speaking what he thinks is the truth. That may be true with his racists tenancies, but a whole lot of the stuff he said was out right lies. His true beliefs on some shit are much different than his new Republicanism. Although I don't doubt he's a bit delusional, and does believe for example he has to power to charge Ford a 33% tax. Or perhaps once again he's just bullshitting the Repubs and knew full well he couldn't do that. But we'll go ahead and let the Repubs think he speaks the "truth", and is even remotely different than the other guys. He night be a bit less PC than other guys, but he's not exactly alone in that. Plenty of people in office say crazy ass shit on a regular basis. :lol
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby Circled Square » Jul 17, '15, 5:56 pm

See people say he called all Mexicans are rapists, when in reality, it was a comment about the kind of Mexicans who come here illegally, and often they're criminals. I've known some good Mexican folk and they despise illegal immigrants because they bring their race down. Just like when I go on about how I strongly dislike certain blacks. You'll be surprised how many legal Mexicans support Trump. They're pretty conservative people with big families and strong religious ties.

I know what Trump is though. He's a walking sabotage to take any spotlight away from Rand. He will eventually either drop out or the media will shit itself (because he's actually popular) and black him out completely. I personally think he'd be a good president in this day and age. Not a bought out career politican. He's in bed with Israel, but who isn't these days?

I don't take him seriously, but I can't lie if he won I would't be in the "OMG USA IS GOING IN SHITTER" crowd.
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby DBSoT » Jul 17, '15, 6:02 pm

1. Polls are deceptive and I wouldn't trust any polls that Fox News puts out.

2. Trump will never win the Republican nomination. It would be suicide to the party's chances in the presidential election. The other candidates will keep denouncing everything he says (as they have with his immigration comments).
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby DBSoT » Jul 17, '15, 6:10 pm

Circled Square wrote:See people say he called all Mexicans are rapists, when in reality, it was a comment about the kind of Mexicans who come here illegally, and often they're criminals. I've known some good Mexican folk and they despise illegal immigrants because they bring their race down. Just like when I go on about how I strongly dislike certain blacks.
No, no they are not. That is a gross overgeneralization.
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby Circled Square » Jul 17, '15, 6:14 pm

DBSoT wrote:
Circled Square wrote:See people say he called all Mexicans are rapists, when in reality, it was a comment about the kind of Mexicans who come here illegally, and often they're criminals. I've known some good Mexican folk and they despise illegal immigrants because they bring their race down. Just like when I go on about how I strongly dislike certain blacks.
No, no they are not. That is a gross overgeneralization.

Not really man. Mexico's a tough place.
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby Circled Square » Jul 17, '15, 6:15 pm

DBSoT wrote:1. Polls are deceptive and I wouldn't trust any polls that Fox News puts out.

2. Trump will never win the Republican nomination. It would be suicide to the party's chances in the presidential election. The other candidates will keep denouncing everything he says (as they have with his immigration comments).

I wouldn't trust any news media outlet really. The Fox News meme is played out.

Edit: There's good illegal immigrants who come here from Mexico. But they're here illegally. That's not right. That's against the law.
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby DBSoT » Jul 17, '15, 6:45 pm

Circled Square wrote:
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Circled Square wrote:See people say he called all Mexicans are rapists, when in reality, it was a comment about the kind of Mexicans who come here illegally, and often they're criminals. I've known some good Mexican folk and they despise illegal immigrants because they bring their race down. Just like when I go on about how I strongly dislike certain blacks.
No, no they are not. That is a gross overgeneralization.

Not really man. Mexico's a tough place.
Exactly Mexico is a tough place for many people, including the many people who are trying to get away from the crime. Trump's comments made a overestimation that a majority of people the come here are rapist and criminals (in Mexico).
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby Circled Square » Jul 17, '15, 6:47 pm

But there's plenty of rapists and criminals who enter the US illegally. It's an uncomfortable issue that he's been rather blunt about, not like other politicians who think similarly but have to beat around the bush or tippy toe their way around the issue.
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby War Daddy » Jul 17, '15, 8:00 pm

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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby UTK » Jul 17, '15, 9:06 pm

lyonssv wrote:
Everlong wrote:Which polls does he lead? I wouldn't trust any polls that list Trump over Bush or Walker


Fox News released a national poll today that Trump led and USA Today released one a few days ago that Trump led as well.

Fox had walker and bush second and third respectively. USA Today had those two flip flopped.


Not only is FOX News full of shit, but their polls are especially full of shit. They edit them to suit their needs, and they're not even subtle about it. Hell, they completely ignored Rand Paul's existence for a while. Perhaps they still are, I don't watch FOX.
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby The Legend » Jul 17, '15, 9:09 pm

I hope he wins the nomination. Makes it easier for the American people to make the right decision come November.
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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby War Daddy » Jul 17, '15, 9:43 pm

The Legend wrote:I hope he wins the nomination. Makes it easier for the American people to make the right decision come November.


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Re: Donald Trump is leading the GOP field...

Postby lyonssv » Jul 17, '15, 9:57 pm

The Legend wrote:I hope he wins the nomination. Makes it easier for the American people to make the right decision come November


And the right decision is...? I'm not saying it's Trump at all, like someone said earlier, I don't really think he is someone to take seriously...but I'm curious who you think the right decision is?
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