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David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby PorkChop » May 14, '15, 1:09 pm

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone... we will conclusively turn the page on this failed approach"


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 46517.html

That's... concerning.
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Re: David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby The Legend » May 14, '15, 1:12 pm

Have fun with that.
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Re: David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby PorkChop » May 14, '15, 1:13 pm

The Legend wrote:Have fun with that.

Erm... ok?
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Re: David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby SortaCreative » May 14, '15, 1:14 pm

PorkChop wrote:
The Legend wrote:Have fun with that.

Erm... ok?


Old wounds still bleed.
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Re: David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby The Legend » May 14, '15, 1:35 pm

SortaCreative wrote:
PorkChop wrote:
The Legend wrote:Have fun with that.

Erm... ok?


Old wounds still bleed.


Nothing about old wounds. I feel bad for you guys, based on what seems to be coming your way.
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Re: David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby Everlong » May 14, '15, 1:35 pm

That sounds... vaguely totalitarian :lol
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Re: David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby Hanley! » May 14, '15, 2:20 pm

This is a way to try and combat extremism apparently.

Because oppression and censorship always lead to less extremism.
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Re: David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby PorkChop » May 14, '15, 2:22 pm

The Legend wrote:
SortaCreative wrote:
PorkChop wrote:
The Legend wrote:Have fun with that.

Erm... ok?


Old wounds still bleed.


Nothing about old wounds. I feel bad for you guys, based on what seems to be coming your way.

I guess you guys had the Bush years, so you know what it's like. Cameron isn't that bad though.
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Re: David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby AkydefGoldberg » May 14, '15, 2:38 pm

Not a surprise. Cons are full in power and don't have anyone, namely the Lib Dems, to hold them back.

All of this is nonsense, talking about British values like they are these fixed ideals that we must adhere to.

Plus the Human Rights Act they want to scrap - it's happy days..
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Re: David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby Twister » May 14, '15, 3:48 pm

Oh, well that's nice. Sigh.
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Re: David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby Kirbi » May 14, '15, 5:25 pm

AkydefGoldberg wrote:Not a surprise. Cons are full in power and don't have anyone, namely the Lib Dems, to hold them back.

All of this is nonsense, talking about British values like they are these fixed ideals that we must adhere to.

Plus the Human Rights Act they want to scrap - it's happy days..


It is a bit crazy, alright. How do people say these things and not realise what they sound like?

The last one (the Human Rights Act) was on the front page of the Irish Times today. Apparently if they repeal it, or change it in certain ways, that could violate the Good Friday Agreement.
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Re: David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby SlightlyJames » May 14, '15, 7:41 pm

Apparently abiding by the law isn't enough anymore? What is this goon on about? He talks about enforcing British values on people but who's to say what those are? And there's stuff in there about needing police approval for social media posts as well. This is bonkers.
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Re: David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby Matteo » May 20, '15, 5:54 am

This is a truly exemplifying and salient example of how freedom of speech is becoming victim to increasing institutional coercion and oppression. Sure, this may seem ostensibly 'harmless' now, but the implications are perturbing and clear. Britain, Australia, and the United States have a truly anti-dissident political culture. There really is no room for dissension in mainstream discourse, and this notion is just being reinforced more and more by elitist scum like Cameron. I truly value the freedoms and liberties we have in the Western world, but there's no denying an existing totalitarian culture in our democracies. It's certainly not as coercive nor as conspicuous as a some third-world dictatorship, but we do live in a world of patent constraint and ostracism when the status-quo is challenged.
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Re: David Cameron: "If you obey the law, we will leave you alone" is a "failed approach"

Postby Daz » May 20, '15, 6:36 am

I'm not sure what world people like David Cameron live in, because it's not the same one as mine. What an absolute tosser, a Grade A pillock if ever there was one.
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