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Oklahoma lawmakers vote overwhelmingly to ban AP US History class

Postby Everlong » Feb 17, '15, 4:52 pm

http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015 ... ory-class/

An Oklahoma legislative committee overwhelmingly voted to ban Advanced Placement U.S. History class, persuaded by the argument that it only teaches students “what is bad about America.” Other lawmakers are seeking a court ruling that would effectively prohibit the teaching of all AP courses in public schools.

Oklahoma Rep. Dan Fisher (R) has introduced “emergency” legislation “prohibiting the expenditure of funds on the Advanced Placement United States History course.” Fisher is part of a group called the “Black Robe Regiment” which argues “the church and God himself has been under assault, marginalized, and diminished by the progressives and secularists.” The group attacks the “false wall of separation of church and state.” The Black Robe Regiment claims that a “growing tide of special interest groups indoctrinating our youth at the exclusion of the Christian perspective.”

Fisher said the Advanced Placement history class fails to teach “American exceptionalism.” The bill passed the Oklahoma House Education committee on Monday on a vote of 11-4. You can read the actual course description for the course here.

For other lawmakers, however, Fisher is thinking too small. Oklahoma Rep. Sally Kern (R) claims that all “AP courses violate the legislation approved last year that repealed Common Core.” She has asked the Oklahoma Attorney General to issue a ruling. Kern argues that “AP courses are similar to Common Core, in that they could be construed as an attempt to impose a national curriculum on American schools.”

Advanced Placement courses are actually developed by a private group, the College Board, and are not required of any student or high school. They are the primary way that student can earn college credit in high school. Taking advanced placement course can save students money and are generally seen as a prerequisite to admission to elite colleges. A representative from the College Board called the claims by Fisher and others “mythology and not true.”

In August last year, the Republican National Committee blasted the Advanced Placement U.S. History test, claiming it “deliberately distorts and/or edits out important historical events.” The RNC said a new framework for the exam “reflects a radically revisionist view of American history that emphasizes negative aspects of our nation’s history while omitting or minimizing positive aspects.” The College Board countered that the framework had not been changed since 2012.

Efforts by conservative school board members in Colorado to make the Advanced Placement U.S. History course “more patriotic,” prompted a walk-out by students. Under the changes proposed in Colorado “students would only be taught lessons depicting American heritage in a positive light, and effectively ban any material that could lead to dissent.” In South Carolina conservatives asked the College Board to exclude any material with an “ideological bias,” including evolution. Similar efforts are underway in Georgia and North Carolina.


The article comes from a biased source, but the meat of it is accurate.

Absolutely fucking disgusting. There is a war on education brewing in this country, mostly waged by dumbshit far right extremists. In my own state, Wisconsin, we are about to become one of only a dozen states to make cuts to funding for higher education...

Just sickening.
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Re: Oklahoma lawmakers vote overwhelmingly to ban AP US History class

Postby DBSoT » Feb 17, '15, 5:54 pm

Seriously fuck that.
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Re: Oklahoma lawmakers vote overwhelmingly to ban AP US History class

Postby Circled Square » Feb 17, '15, 6:05 pm

I don't believe in a whiney class full of curriculum that creates no sense of pride. You can't have a nation based on guilt, it's stupid. That being said, you've got to tell the truth, if it's a harsh truth, so be it. This law is clearly against that, so it's wrong.
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Re: Oklahoma lawmakers vote overwhelmingly to ban AP US History class

Postby Racing Guy » Feb 17, '15, 6:50 pm

Of course it's a Republican.
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Re: Oklahoma lawmakers vote overwhelmingly to ban AP US History class

Postby Circled Square » Feb 17, '15, 6:54 pm

Racing Guy wrote:Of course it's a Republican.

I think the hating Republicans ship has sailed. Both parties are shit. I'm almost inclined to say the GOP is less shit in comparison. Imagine Hillary as the next candidate....

I'm calling it right now:

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Re: Oklahoma lawmakers vote overwhelmingly to ban AP US History class

Postby Everlong » Feb 17, '15, 11:00 pm

Jeb Bush doesn't stand a chance in hell, this country would not elect another Bush to the presidency. If any Republican is going to win it, it'd probably be Scott Walker, as much as I hate to say it.

Still think the presidency is Clinton's to lose. But the Republican Party has been hijacked by tea party extremists, which is terrible for this country so long as they continue to hold any semblance of power.
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Re: Oklahoma lawmakers vote overwhelmingly to ban AP US History class

Postby Circled Square » Feb 17, '15, 11:07 pm

Everlong wrote:Jeb Bush doesn't stand a chance in hell, this country would not elect another Bush to the presidency. If any Republican is going to win it, it'd probably be Scott Walker, as much as I hate to say it.

Still think the presidency is Clinton's to lose. But the Republican Party has been hijacked by tea party extremists, which is terrible for this country so long as they continue to hold any semblance of power.

Jeb Bush won't win or get the nod. That bitch Hillary is so hellbent on combat overseas nowadays that if she gets into office we're all fucked.

I'd honestly rather have Ted Cruz and he's borderline retarded.
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Re: Oklahoma lawmakers vote overwhelmingly to ban AP US History class

Postby EmperorWu » Feb 23, '15, 5:52 am

Circled Square wrote:I don't believe in a whiney class full of curriculum that creates no sense of pride. You can't have a nation based on guilt, it's stupid. That being said, you've got to tell the truth, if it's a harsh truth, so be it. This law is clearly against that, so it's wrong.

Telling the truth as objectively as possible is the responsibility of any country that claims to stand on the principles of freedom, truth and doing the right thing. Then you let the students judge of themselves. If even you think your country looks bad by telling the truth, that you feel you need to censor education... well that speaks volumes doesn't it? So they're saying it's wrong to only paint us in one light! So let's fix it by painting us in only one light! This country has always had a problem consolidating it's proclaimed values with it's actions. You create a sense of pride by creating a country to be proud of, it's not whining to call yourselves out on your bullshit. Self reflection is the most effective way of improving your country for everyone, not just those in charge.

You have to love the hypocrisy of justify censorship and brainwashing by claiming censorship and brainwashing.
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