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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby Daz » Mar 17, '14, 8:59 am

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Everlong wrote:Yeah everything I've read seems to indicate that the only two real possibilities are a catastrophic systems failure or a pilot suicide. It's an intriguing story because you'd think it'd be easier to find out the truth, but the truth probably isn't anywhere near as exciting as people seem to think it is.


The plane carried on flying for four hours after comms was (according to airline) turned off by the pilots so I can't see it being catastrophic systems failure and I just can't believe pilot suicide... I mean there was 239 people on that flight and unless then co-pilot was in on the suicide pact then surely several of the many people on the plane would of stopped it and contacted help....

One of the theories that USA today is reporting is that two Iranians who boarded the flight had stolen passports and the pair had tickets to get to Europe, the two could of taken over the plane and in an act to save the thousands that could of potentially died in the plane crashing into a building or what have you, the pilot crashed into the water.

It is one of the situations where we may never ever find out what happened


How would the 239 people know what the pilot is doing? How aware are you of the pilot when you fly? He could have subdued the co-pilot, turned of comms and taken the plane down. I don't see how anyone could have stopped him if that's what he was gonna do. Conceivably the flight attendants might have tried to do something, but the passengers ... not a chance. How are they even gonna get inside? The cock pit is re-enforced to specifically prevent people from entering against the pilot's will.

That being said, do I think this is some pilot suicide? No. There's just too many other factors to think that's all it is. It is certainly a strange situation.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby Romo » Mar 17, '14, 9:38 am

Co-Pilot (the fanatic of opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim) is confirmed to have been the one to have said the "alright, good night"
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby prophet » Mar 17, '14, 9:46 am

Romo wrote:Co-Pilot (the fanatic of opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim) is confirmed to have been the one to have said the "alright, good night"

The pilot said that as the plane was travelling from Malaysian to Vietnamese airspace. He was likely just saying good night to the Malaysian airport crew as he shifted communications from them to the Vietnamese team.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby ShaneOfan » Mar 17, '14, 10:33 am

I think the governments know where it is or what happened to it but can't release that information at this time. Obviously we know the plane went off course intentionally, but beyond that we can only speculate.

My guess is that whatever it is that happened it was not done by someone who was not allowed in the cockpit. By that I mean It was not hijacked, either the pilot, the co-pilot or both did something with it. Suicide seems possible but not likely. I think they may have headed north towards China.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby Romo » Mar 17, '14, 2:44 pm

ShaneOfan wrote:I think the governments know where it is or what happened to it but can't release that information at this time. Obviously we know the plane went off course intentionally, but beyond that we can only speculate.

My guess is that whatever it is that happened it was not done by someone who was not allowed in the cockpit. By that I mean It was not hijacked, either the pilot, the co-pilot or both did something with it. Suicide seems possible but not likely. I think they may have headed north towards China.


According to the flight officials the plane had 8 hours of fuel and the last ping from the plane came 7.5 hours into the flight, so who knows where this plane is...
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby Chewy » Mar 17, '14, 7:47 pm

Romo wrote:
Everlong wrote:Yeah everything I've read seems to indicate that the only two real possibilities are a catastrophic systems failure or a pilot suicide. It's an intriguing story because you'd think it'd be easier to find out the truth, but the truth probably isn't anywhere near as exciting as people seem to think it is.


The plane carried on flying for four hours after comms was (according to airline) turned off by the pilots so I can't see it being catastrophic systems failure and I just can't believe pilot suicide... I mean there was 239 people on that flight and unless then co-pilot was in on the suicide pact then surely several of the many people on the plane would of stopped it and contacted help....

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It is one of the situations where we may never ever find out what happened


Unlikely, as mentioned above, if you trained hard enough to identify and disable the transponders, you might have a cursory search to know that that particular flight would only carry seven hours of fuel.

It was also at night and of the tracking system is off the passengers would have any reference to tell if they're going the right way or not. The only anomaly is the co pilot.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby llanlad » Mar 17, '14, 9:14 pm

It's in the bottom of the Ocean in one of the remotest regions of the world. Iv'e heard some quite frankly ridiculous theories about this, here's some:

- It flew through acid rain and dissolved.

- It flew towards Antartica and crash landed there.

- It flew too high and entered space, I mean no one has look there.

- Aliens

- Crashed into the North Sentinel Islands where the local tribe are cannibals and ate everyone on board.

- The Israelis predictably blamed Iran for doing this.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby Chewy » Mar 24, '14, 9:58 pm

Confirmed somewhere in the Indian Ocean. No survivors.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby Romo » Mar 25, '14, 10:01 am

This whole situation with just deciding everyone is dead seems alittle suspicious to me, the story changes every day.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby ShaneOfan » Mar 25, '14, 10:08 am

Romo wrote:This whole situation with just deciding everyone is dead seems alittle suspicious to me, the story changes every day.


Thing is we knew everyone was dead already. It was just a matter of finding the wreckage. They found debris they are pretty sure if not positive was from 370 and felt it was a safe time to call it official.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby AkydefGoldberg » Mar 25, '14, 12:54 pm

It seems that some dudes in England were part of the analysis of the wreckage that was in the Indian Ocean and tracking it and I think they had been doing so for some time before they felt comfortable okaying it.

I doubt more information will come to light but definitely conspiracy theories will come out in the forms of books, documentaries etc.

Shoddy work by the Malaysia government text-messaging relatives of the news. Poor.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby ShaneOfan » Mar 25, '14, 12:57 pm

AkydefGoldberg wrote:It seems that some dudes in England were part of the analysis of the wreckage that was in the Indian Ocean and tracking it and I think they had been doing so for some time before they felt comfortable okaying it.

I doubt more information will come to light but definitely conspiracy theories will come out in the forms of books, documentaries etc.

Shoddy work by the Malaysia government text-messaging relatives of the news. Poor.


It's kind of shitty but I do get why they did it how they did. They had to choice to send one text to everyone at the same time so they all got the news at the same time or to call everyone individually. While I think a call would have been nice and more personal, it would have taken a long time to do and there would have been people finding out at different times.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby AkydefGoldberg » Mar 25, '14, 1:03 pm

ShaneOfan wrote:
AkydefGoldberg wrote:It seems that some dudes in England were part of the analysis of the wreckage that was in the Indian Ocean and tracking it and I think they had been doing so for some time before they felt comfortable okaying it.

I doubt more information will come to light but definitely conspiracy theories will come out in the forms of books, documentaries etc.

Shoddy work by the Malaysia government text-messaging relatives of the news. Poor.


It's kind of shitty but I do get why they did it how they did. They had to choice to send one text to everyone at the same time so they all got the news at the same time or to call everyone individually. While I think a call would have been nice and more personal, it would have taken a long time to do and there would have been people finding out at different times.


They should have gathered the majority of the relatives who were there (assuming the Chinese family and friends of those missing were in Malaysia) in a private meeting to break the news whilst calling anyone not there privately. Sending a text message seems poor but I guess it's probably tough for Malaysia, who've suddenly been thrusted into the world limelight trying to manage this situation with the media attention, relatives etc.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby ShaneOfan » Mar 25, '14, 1:09 pm

AkydefGoldberg wrote:
ShaneOfan wrote:
AkydefGoldberg wrote:It seems that some dudes in England were part of the analysis of the wreckage that was in the Indian Ocean and tracking it and I think they had been doing so for some time before they felt comfortable okaying it.

I doubt more information will come to light but definitely conspiracy theories will come out in the forms of books, documentaries etc.

Shoddy work by the Malaysia government text-messaging relatives of the news. Poor.


It's kind of shitty but I do get why they did it how they did. They had to choice to send one text to everyone at the same time so they all got the news at the same time or to call everyone individually. While I think a call would have been nice and more personal, it would have taken a long time to do and there would have been people finding out at different times.


They should have gathered the majority of the relatives who were there (assuming the Chinese family and friends of those missing were in Malaysia) in a private meeting to break the news whilst calling anyone not there privately. Sending a text message seems poor but I guess it's probably tough for Malaysia, who've suddenly been thrusted into the world limelight trying to manage this situation with the media attention, relatives etc.


Oh I agree the best way would have been a press conference stocked with grief councilors and emts. But I do believe they thought they were doing the right thing.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines Flight 370

Postby Chewy » Apr 10, '14, 9:12 pm

Bumped.

Seems they've found the black box.

And I'm not talking about Nikki Minaj.
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