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ShaneOfan wrote:Honestly it wasn't that bad. Okay so no Angle who I didn't expect to see. No Joe who I'll admit I thought would show up but not win. There were only a few dudes I thought could win. Jericho, Orton, Bray, Miz. Maybe Sami as an outsider. I knew there was noway Taker, Goldberg, Lesnar was winning. I honestly didn't think Sami or Bray either. Miz was my outside pick, but Orton works the best. Hell we don't know Cena isn't a transitional champ.
Roman in at 30 might have upset people, I guess. But so what? The problem with us "picking" surprises ahead of time is we will 9/10 be wrong and then disappointed. Roman came in to huge heat and looked like a bad guy. Plus anyone vs Taker will at best be the other good guy anymore, but now you have a guy to feud with him who can be the heel. Let WWE show us where they are going.
KaiserGlider wrote:I KNEW we would be here having this debate again, just like last year.
Overall, I liked the Rumble match. And the more I think about the finish, the more I like it. Nobody saw Orton coming; it was a total shock win for the first time in forever. Roman was there to get the Orton victory over with the fans. Nobody else could have gotten Orton over like that if he had eliminated them. They knew what they were doing with Roman. It was bait. Even I fell for it hard until I started thinking more about it afterwards.
Styles will win the title back in the Elimination Chamber, setting up Orton vs Styles, Cena/Taker, and Owens/Jericho.
Orton was far from the best choice to win the match on paper, but this has the potential to turn into a good storyline and get us a good Wrestlemania card after all. Face Styles vs Orton and the Wyatt family? Lots of directions they could go with that, and I'm intrigued how to see how the story develops. No way we're getting Cena/Orton part VIIXI or Owens/Orton instead of Jericho. I'm in "wait and see" mode, and I feel I have good and optimistic reasons to be.
KaiserGlider wrote:Why? That match would suck and Wyatt is not a draw on the level of any of the other potential players we're discussing.
Messiah wrote:The Rumble match sucked, but there is nothing wrong with Orton winning. How many better alternatives were there? Strowman? He has a great story behind him and it should be a good match between him and Bray.
Messiah wrote:KaiserGlider wrote:Why? That match would suck and Wyatt is not a draw on the level of any of the other potential players we're discussing.
Because it makes a lot more sense than anything else. They aren't going to leave Wyatt without a match on the card and Orton/Wyatt has been building up for months now.
I don't know why you think the match would suck but regardless, that will almost certainly be the match barring the unexpected. Wyatt will probably win the title in the chamber. Announcers may as well have confirmed Reigns/Undertaker.
KaiserGlider wrote:Messiah wrote:KaiserGlider wrote:Why? That match would suck and Wyatt is not a draw on the level of any of the other potential players we're discussing.
Because it makes a lot more sense than anything else. They aren't going to leave Wyatt without a match on the card and Orton/Wyatt has been building up for months now.
I don't know why you think the match would suck but regardless, that will almost certainly be the match barring the unexpected. Wyatt will probably win the title in the chamber. Announcers may as well have confirmed Reigns/Undertaker.
You talk about Bray like he's a main eventer. He's a supporting character, not even the strongest guy in his own stable.
That would involve shoehorning the title on Bray next month - a guy who hasn't been a serious singles competitor in forever.
KaiserGlider wrote:Roman was there to get the Orton victory over with the fans. Nobody else could have gotten Orton over like that if he had eliminated them. They knew what they were doing with Roman. It was bait. Even I fell for it hard until I started thinking more about it afterwards.
Messiah wrote:Those sound like problems you have with WWE's booking, which is fine, but it doesn't change what is going to happen. Orton vs Bray is so obvious that I can't believe this is actually a discussion. Honest to God, I will send you money through Pay-Pal if barring injury they go a different direction.
When Bray Wyatt has been healthy, he has had matches against Undertaker and Cena at WrestleMania. When he wasn't healthy, he was involved in a segment with The Rock. Undertaker, Cena, and Rock. And you really think they would leave him off the card and have him take a role as someone merely at ringside? Whether you agree with how he's booked or not, or whether he is legitimate enough for this position, the WWE CLEARLY thinks highly of him. Combine that with the storyline and it makes no sense to do anything but Wyatt/Orton. It's blatant as anything they have ever done (which I'm fine with - I think it is a good story).
I'm just not seeing what you guys are. The announcers straight up said on commentary Undertaker/Reigns wasn't over. Styles losing the title and winning the title back in 2 weeks just isn't happening. And as much as I think the odds of Bray/Orton not happening is low, I'm willing to bet the odds of Cena/Orton happening is even lower.
Orton vs Bray will be the WWE Title match. I'd put money on it. It would be the easiest money I could ever make.
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