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motionmann wrote:Whether it was planned or not, none of you would believe it if it was planned. If you've watched the WWE for the last 6 months you knew they were going to make the real payoff be at Mania. The classic baby face overcoming every single odd.
However, if D Bry beats HHH then loses in the main event, then I'm going to laugh my ass off. Hard. Not because I want him to lose(Because i believe he deserves to walk out champ), but because the explosion on the internet is going to be so damn entertaining.
Everlong wrote:If it was a slow burn, it was anything but genius. Rule #1 of any type of television show: don't intentionally piss off your fans. You can build heat, but they've pretty much spat in the face of the fans at every turn over the course of the last few months.
We've seen them purposefully bury guys that the fans love before, which is why it's much more likely that this is them waking the fuck up and covering their asses.
The Legend wrote:At the very worst it's a mix of the two and realistically it's much more of a genius slow burn. The WWE has made it clear for 9 months they were planning on a huge Daniel Bryan title run at some point. If they were ever going to just drop him down the card they would have done that already like they did with Ryback.
I find it ironic that when it's a face that people don't like they are like, it comes too easy to him it's best when a face has to overcome a mountain of adversity and have setbacks along the way. Bryan comes along and it's like, "Noooooo, he's our favorite, We want it NOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!! WAH!"
Can I say that Bryan getting a title shot this way was their plan all along, not absolutely, but no one can say that it wasn't their plan all along either. What has to be said is the way the WWE has crafted this story has turned Bryan into a megastar that all of their fans are behind, that is a genius storyline because in this day and age the entire WWE Universe never agrees about a guy 100%
Hanley! wrote:The Legend wrote:At the very worst it's a mix of the two and realistically it's much more of a genius slow burn. The WWE has made it clear for 9 months they were planning on a huge Daniel Bryan title run at some point. If they were ever going to just drop him down the card they would have done that already like they did with Ryback.
I find it ironic that when it's a face that people don't like they are like, it comes too easy to him it's best when a face has to overcome a mountain of adversity and have setbacks along the way. Bryan comes along and it's like, "Noooooo, he's our favorite, We want it NOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!! WAH!"
Can I say that Bryan getting a title shot this way was their plan all along, not absolutely, but no one can say that it wasn't their plan all along either. What has to be said is the way the WWE has crafted this story has turned Bryan into a megastar that all of their fans are behind, that is a genius storyline because in this day and age the entire WWE Universe never agrees about a guy 100%
Obviously it's them saving their asses. Pretty much every step of the way, they've sign-posted that Bryan wasn't going to be in the main event at Wrestlemania. He's taken a route to the main event that basically nobody before him ever has.
Your "We want it NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! WAH!" comment is completely untrue by the way. You've been on the forum since Summerslam so you know that this wasn't anyone's reaction. Immediately people started fantasy booking Bryan's climb towards the championship at Wrestlemania. There were so many ways to stretch it out - there was Triple H, Kane & the Shield to deal with and they could have even brought in others if need be. It would have been easy to save his championship match for Wrestlemania.
And that's what everyone wanted - not for Bryan to win it straight away, but for him to have to work for it the old fashioned way and win it at the show where it would mean the most.
So by your logic, we got what we wanted in the end, right? Sure. But that's obviously not what they had planned. As I said, nobody in Wrestlemania history enjoyed the kind of year that Bryan has right before headlining the show. Consider the following:
1) Bryan was in a drawn out feud with Randy Orton for the championship a few months ago. If they wanted Bryan to win the title at Wrestlemania, why would they have wasted this match back then? That was the definition of a feud that was designed to kill time leading up to the Rumble and build up Orton/the Authority.
2) The Wyatt feud was really badly done. Bryan turned heel, turned back 2 weeks later and then they had a match at the Royal Rumble. The face lost clean and it hasn't come up since. When does this ever happen in WWE? Again it looks like the heel turn was something they were half serious about but decided against it. No way does it look like a feud that was booked well in advance. It was too sloppy.
3) Speaking of the Wyatt feud, not only was Bryan not in the Rumble match, he lost clean in the opening match of the Royal Rumble and didn't appear later in the show. Has that ever happened to a wrestler 2 months before a Wrestlemania main event?
4) As others have mentioned, the Batista stuff clearly was not supposed to turn out this way and Punk was never supposed to leave. The landscape has changed dramatically as of late, and not in a direction that WWE wanted or expected. Batista was supposed to be the babyface at Wrestlemania - that much is clear from how they booked him upon his return. That doesn't tie in particularly well with the narrative of Bryan finally winning the big one.
But the thing that makes it most obvious that this wasn't planned is that none of this was really working in their favour until last night. Fans were openly crapping on their wrestlers and their product - that wasn't what they wanted the casual fans tuning in for Wrestlemania season to see. Fans were booing babyfaces, which wasn't good for their long term booking plans. The Royal Rumble got serious amounts of bad press. I saw comments about how bad it was on videos and articles from sites that had nothing to do with wrestling.
And what did they get out of jerking Bryan and the fans around in the end? Fans are now happy to see Bryan in the Wrestlemania main event ... which is what they were already hoping for a year ago. So really they've gained nothing.
The idea that WWE planned any of this ahead of time is a really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really hard sell.
Hanley! wrote:2) The Wyatt feud was really badly done. Bryan turned heel, turned back 2 weeks later and then they had a match at the Royal Rumble. The face lost clean and it hasn't come up since. When does this ever happen in WWE? Again it looks like the heel turn was something they were half serious about but decided against it. No way does it look like a feud that was booked well in advance. It was too sloppy.
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